Salam1. Didalam gambar diatas adalah buku SPR yang berwarna kuning berkaitan 'penjelasan isu-isu pilihanraya' serta dengan gambar Shamsul Iskandar daripada AMK.
2. Dalam buku tu ada dijelaskan 20 ISU-ISU BERKAITAN PILIHANRAYA. Bukan saja yang berkaitan dengan tuntutan Bersih tetapi juga isu-isu lain secara terperinci. Aku akan senaraikan setiap satu isu.
3. Berikut adalah isu-isu yang dijelaskan didalam buku ini:
a) Isu pendaftaran pemilih secara automatik
b) Isu pemansuhan undi pos
c) Isu isteri anggota tentera didaftarkan sebagai pengundi pos
d) Isu anggota polis dan pasangan didaftarkan sebagai pengundi pos
e) Isu semua rakyat diluar negara dibenarkan menjadi pengundi pos
f) Isu pendatang asing cuba didaftarkan sebagai pengundi
g) Isu penggunaan dakwat kekal
h) Isu pemindahan pengundi
i) Isu menurunkan usia sebagai pemilih berdaftar dari 21 tahun kepada 18 tahun
j) Isu pembersihan daftar pemilih
k) Isu persempadanan semula bahagian-bahagian pilihanraya
l) Isu tempoh berkempen
m) Isu rasuah pilihanraya
n) Isu kawalan perbelanjaan semasa pilihanraya
o) Isu akses media yang bebas dan adil
p) Isu keadilan dalam petisyen pilihanraya
q) Isu hak memantau pilihanraya
r) Isu pilihanraya yang bebas dan adil
s) Isu pilihanraya pihak berkuasa tempatan perlu diadakan semula oleh SPR
t) Isu pengundi hantu
4. Buku ni setebal 19 mukasurat. Penjelasan secara terperinci boleh didapati berkaitan semua isu diatas. Kalau online version punya tebal sampai lebih 50 mukasurat.
5. Untuk soft copy boleh dapat di laman web rasmi SPR di ruang informasi. Boleh download dan save untuk dihadamkan.
6. Maka, yang berminat untuk ambil tahu silalah download dan baca.
7. Cuma aku nak bertanya, yang dok hingaq turun Bersih 2.0 hari tu, dah baca penjelasan dan langkah-langkah alternatif yang diambil SPR dalam buku ni ke tak?
8. Semoga sama-sama diberi kefahaman berkaitan sistem/ peraturan dan gerakerja pilihanraya di Malaysia secara lebih mendalam.
Selamat menghadam,
Reverie Malaya
"Undang-undang dan pilihanraya adalah hak rakyat Malaysia, bukan milik kumpulan minoriti untuk menentukan peraturan apa yang mereka sukai dalam pilihanraya.
Bertarung diperlawanan yang sebenar kelak!"
Bertarung diperlawanan yang sebenar kelak!"
Salam
ReplyDeletebila baca entry ang ni, aku terfkir sesuatu.
aku percayakan pilihanraya yg adil dan saksama. tapi aku tak rasa perhimpunan jalanan boleh ubah perkara ni melainkan impaknya lebih kepada sesuatu yang lain.
berjayanya perhimpunan tu jika kemahuan mereka dituruti tetapi yang lebih2 di highlight pasca wacana ialah kesalahan pihak itu pihak ini. dan inilah yang tersiratnya.
Aku percaya MP pembangkang dan kerajaan ada banyak masa untuk berusaha untuk pulihkan sistem kekemasan pilihanraya SPR.
kenapa perlu turun ke jalanan sekiranya suara2 minoriti boleh dibawa ke parlimen?
perhimpunan jalanan itu demokrasi tapi bukanlah jalan keluar yang pertama.
p/s: aku inshaAllah akan mengundi pemimpin dan bukannya parti
yusuf mujahidin: I'm glad to listen to such maturity in your decision-making. Perkara yang sudah terang lagi bersuluh, sekiranya agenda ialah penyerahan memorandum, kenapa tidak diserahkan sewaktu diperkenan berjumpa Agong? Sekiranya agenda ialah menunjukkan perhimpunan suara rakyat, kenapa tidak diadakan di stadium setelah diperkenan dan diberi laluan secara aman?
ReplyDeleteSoalan pokoknya, kenapa masih mau berhimpun?
Kenapa mau berhimpun?
ReplyDeleteBerhimpun adalah hak asasi rakyat. Kalau saya rakyat Malaysia nak pegi jalan-jalan tak boleh ke?
You guys are trying to defend the indefensible. The SPR hanky panky has been reported by so many. Why are you even asking for proof? You know why there can never be any legal proof? Because to have any legitimate proof, the SPR, MACC and Police needed to investigate. And if you actually trust them to do a fair investigations, you are living is a fantasy world. Look at Teoh Beng Hock's RCI. Or Looked at Tung Shin Hopital being water-cannoned. When the Minister of Health and Police lied in the face of so many video evidence and live witnesses, if you still trust them, then I think your sense of judgement is seriously impaired.
People asked me, "Aren't you afraid? Isn't it dangerous to go jalan-jalan on 9th July?" Let me tell you, it was perfectly safe when you are among the crowd. There were no violence at all accept from the cops.
Kan Chan: Bagaimana dengan hak asasi rakyat yang mahukan ketenangan tanpa perhimpunan propaganda pembangkang? 10-20k people is not the majority and who says their demands are the best demand for the majority of Malaysian but themselves?
ReplyDeleteThere's no need for me to response to your inability to trust the official report on TBH case and also Tung Shin hospital case that are hugely politicised.
I see, the police, MACC, SPR are all 'tak boleh pakai' so who to trust? You expect me to trust the things said by Lim Kit Siang, Anwar Ibrahim in their ceramah rather than trusting the organisations that have been keeping our country calm, safe and developed for all these while?
I'm sorry, name me whatever you want to but I'd still rely on the institutions rather than on a few individuals and a small minority of people.
"Bagaimana dengan hak asasi rakyat yang mahukan ketenangan tanpa perhimpunan propaganda pembangkang? 10-20k people is not the majority and who says their demands are the best demand for the majority of Malaysian but themselves?"
ReplyDeletePreferences over the levels of "ketenangan" is not a "hak asasi rakyat". You are saying just because you don't like crowds and traffic jams, therefore the 20K citizens cannot walk on the street. What kind of reasoning is that?
Kan Chan: you are taking this argument superficially and thus making it hard for a proper discussion to be done. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion, lets just choose proper ways to channel our voices.
ReplyDeleteWhat is so superficial?
ReplyDeleteOne group of people wanted to show a unity of protest via a constitutional rights.
Another group claimed the do not like traffic jams and "potential" chaos (of course they were no chaos and traffic jams apart from those caused by the government and their tools).
So now, those that wanted to exercise their constitutional rights were labeled as law-breakers.
Those is power on the other hand can do whatever they want.
If you do not want to be superficial, you should not be afraid to address the crucial problems.
But it seems, because you think that if you cannot trust the government agencies like the police, macc, judiciary, EC, then all is lost. And because you cannot imagine a life where those powerful agencies that were suppose to protect the people, end up abusing their power, therefore you seem to find that you have no choice but to ignore their abuses.
You say, "I see, the police, MACC, SPR are all 'tak boleh pakai' so who to trust? You expect me to trust the things said by Lim Kit Siang..."
When did Lim Kit Siang lie to you?
But we have many many instances of government agencies lying. I mentioned the Tung Shin case because it is irrefutable, the Health Minister and the Police lied.
But dare you to call them liar? No, right, Because the they lied, who else can you trust?
You're spinning my statements. I never say i dont have a choice but to trust them. I said it sarcastically and u took it as a statement and spinned it. There u go, being superficial taking my statement at surface level.
ReplyDeleteAnd im not gonna comment on your other questions, u can accept lim kit siang as a saint but im not. You can believe the oppo leaders rather than police but im dont and its my right and i choose to express it thru blog and not demonstration.
You go have your opinions, but ill stick to mine. Illegal demonstrations have to be stopped and i thank pdrm for that.
I did not "spin" your statement. That's why I use "it seems"... meaning "perhaps". I means that you should clarify your statements. Be clear.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, when I asked you 'When did Lim Kit Siang lie to you?", immediately you say I accept his as a saint. Aren't you are the one spinning? I'm merely asking you to clarify your ill opinion on Lim Kit Siang. If you know he did evil, state them specifically so that I will know. I don't want him to cheat me.
And when I give you example of Police and Government cheating, you failed to acknowledge. If you think they did not cheat, and they are the good guys, well... state them with some properly constructed opinions.
Bro, about lim kit siang if you really want to know do your research and find it yourself and i wish u all the best. Knowledge u found yourself is more appreciated. You gave example of tung shin, police violence and so on, lets just read the report. But i doubt you will believe the report produced by our pdrm since you've made it clear you'd rather trust some people than the institutions that have been keeping our nation and its people safe all these while.
ReplyDeleteYou mean to say that you will NEVER believe the PDRM and Government tell lies even when photos and videos have shown otherwise?
ReplyDeleteYou mean whenever there are 2 conflicting views, the institutions will always be in the right?
And don't say I'm spinning your words. Your words implied the above. I'm just asking those questions to make sure I don't mis-understood you. If you state things CLEARLY, who can spin your words.
Bro, what about the vids and photos bout the people attacking our police force? You tell me. What about Tian Chua attacking the police?
ReplyDeleteWhat do you expect from our police force when certain demonstrators are provoking them?
By you stating "you seem to have no other choice but to ignore their (agencies & police) abuses" is spinning my statement and my view. I need not gave more examples.
I never deny abuses by certain individuals within the agencies and pdrm but that DO NOT MAKE THE WHOLE INSTITUTION 'tak boleh pakai'. 1 polis rasuah doesn't mean the institution is backing up rasuah. 1 doktor salah rawatan dan pesakit mati tak bermakna THE WHOLE HOSPITAL 'tak boleh pakai'. Get it? Or you still don't?
Pendirian saya tegas,
1. Untuk dikatakan p/raya di Malaysia tidak bersih dan tidak adil adalah overstatement yang menipu. Contoh ketara adalah kemenangan pihak pembangkang selama ini. Perubahan dan peralihan kuasa yang adil melalui sistem p/raya setiap p/raya.
2. Bersih bukan mengenai tuntutan dan bukan mengenai berjumpa Agung untuk menyerahkan tuntutan. Bukti, Ambiga dah jumpa tetapi kenapa tidak diserahkan tuntutan?
3. Bersih bukan mengenai p/raya tetapi adalah propaganda sesetengah pihak untuk mengumpul momentum bagi menghadapi PRU-13 sama seperti Bersih 2007, agenda utk PRU 2008. Jika benar berkenaan p/raya, kenapa tidak diadakan setelah PR menang 5 negeri pada PRU 2008? Kenapa PR menghalalkan kemenangan mereka dalam PRU itu tetapi setelah P/raya Sarawak dan menjelang masuknya period PRU-13, isu Bersih mula dimainkan semula. Kenapa?
4. Stadium diberikan tetapi tetap mahu berdemonstrasi. Kenapa? Bersih bukan mengenai menyuarakan tuntutan rakyat tetapi untuk membuat huru-hara.
5. Bersih bukan suara majoriti rakyat.
Dan lain-lain. And as I said, you are entitled to your opinions and me to mine. But I choose to voice through this blog and not go street demonstration as there are always other mediums for our voices to be heard. Yet Bersih is not about 'their voices to be heard' tetapi untuk membuat huru-hara. I do hope this clears your 'misunderstanding' of my statements.
Well, Tian Chua may be an idiot. But in all the videos, you only see him running toward the police. He is unarmed. But in other video, I see Police ran toward someone sitting on the ground unarmed. The Police kicked him in the chest. How come you strongly condemn someone unarmed running towards the police but no mention on the Police actually kicking someone sitting unarmed on the ground?
ReplyDeleteWhen I say " "you seem to have no other choice but to ignore their (agencies & police) abuses", it is not spinning because I gave you the benefit of doubt. Meaning you can explain if I misread you.
But when you say, "u can accept lim kit siang as a saint but im not.", you are the one spinning. Why? Because you make a statement that I accept LKS as a saint. When did I say anything that represents LKS as a saint? So, do you who spinned accuses someone else as spinning?
Well, as I assume you as an adult, as well as your readers, obviously I did not mean all the police officers "tak boleh pakai". We all know in any groups, there are good people and bad people within.
When someone say that the Jewish State as evil, all right thinking adults know that does not mean that EVERYONE inside is evil. Or if you would say that Muslims are good people, all right thinking adults know that not EVERYONE of them are good. We are talking or referring about the Leaders or their keys representatives or their core actions.
Therefore, we asked:
Why the police leaders lied about Tung Shin?
Why the Minister of Health lied?
We are not talking about a clerk here but those in leading position abusing their powers.
Some points on Bersih:
Using you own logic. Just because opposition won some seats it does not mean the Election is Clean and Fair. In many cheating cases, one don't need to cheat 100% to be consider cheating. But when they tilt the ground and they are not level, it is already cheating. Please stop using those utterly poor arguments. This is not a zero sum game. It doesn't mean if someone cheats, he would win 100%. It doesn't mean if someone cheat, the opponent totally cannot win.
About the Stadium. Bersih wanted Stadium Merdeka. BN says no. That's all. Ya ya, Najib says he meant Shah Alam. Anyway, if the police HELP everyone, prepare route and control traffic so that everyone can go to Stadium Merdeka, no one would be wandering in the city everywhere.
Oh yes, you are right. Bersih is not the Majority. But why does that matter? You mean the minority constitutional rights should be stripped because some people don't like traffic jams. Even if only 1 Malaysian, his constitutional rights should be uphold.
I certainly agree with you that it is your constitutional rights to voice your opinions on this blog and not on the street.
Question for you. If you have rights to voice your opinion online, does others have rights to voice opinions on the street, according to the constitution?
Lastly, about the huru-hara. Based on what facts do you claimed that Bersih create huru-hara on the street? Who brought weapons other than the police? Who uses weapons on anyone other than the police? Oh, one stupid Tian Chua ran unarmed towards a group of armed men. Granted. But he was not at Tung Shin or dataran Maybank was he?
I'm not condemning your rights to your opinion. Only I encourage you to present your opinion with more factually constructed thoughts. Not just making statements without presenting basis to back them up.
Kan Chan: Okay I accpet your word, Tian Chuan may be an idiot.
ReplyDeleteHave a read on the articles below yourself. Too much spinning in our online medium that distorted the information. Think carefully and judge accordingly. Polis juga rakyat Malaysia. Perhimpunan disuraikan mengikut SOP. Jika polis Malaysia ganas, maka Polis Norway terroris dan zalim? Mengapa penyokong bersih lari ke dalam hospital in the first place? If kata nak ke stadium, cari parking tepi stadium la bro, mana ada orang nak pergi stadium parking berbatu-batu jauh dari stadium dan jalan kaki ke sana? Kalau niat nak turun huru-hara jalanan, YDPA dah kata hentikan tetapi mereka semua derhaka kepada pemerintah. Ambiga failed to answer this question herself in the previous wacana by Sinar Harian, why?
Cukup-cukuplah buat propaganda dan huru-hara, let's fight in the next GE althoug I know PR won't keep quiet until they won all seats. Then only our electoral system will be considered as clean and fair by them.
http://n9kini.com/?p=46309
Misteri 11 Doktor Tung Shin: http://www.anwaraidc.com/?p=14925
Lakonan Suhardi:
http://www.papagomo.com/2011/07/ekslusif-konspirasi-pembunuhan-mangsa.html
Penipuan Mat Sabu:
http://novandri.blogspot.com/2011/07/terjawab-sebab-cruciate-ligament-lutut.html
No damage to Tung Shin hospital:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i7pNub8LNQ
And many other more. Like I said, carilah sendiri nanti akan jumpa bukti. Bukti penyelewengan dalam p.raya PKR sendiri, want to champion Bersih but election sendiri pun huru-hara, macam mana?
And even until now, I don't really get the real point of Bersih. If it's about reforming our electoral system, then why SPR punya cadangan to do biometric pun tak diterima pakai even after SPR said they will kaji and buat simulasi first before doing it.
Lastly, although Bersih's propagande to tarnish the image of our PDRM is accepted by Malaysians like you, many other Malaysians DO NOT accept this action and I personally believe our PDRM has done their job greatly to stop this rally from building up its momentum and becoming something else because of some of the 'may be' idiot like Tian Chua.
-Peace and Out-
Penipuan Anwar Ibrahim:
ReplyDeletehttp://novandri.blogspot.com/2011/07/bukti-video-anwar-ibrahim-kena-asap.html
How can anyone park near the Stadium when the entire KL is locked down? Why run into the hospital? Well, when you are unarmed and tear gas and chemicals raining down on you, where else are you going to run? And the question is not where they ran.
ReplyDeleteThe question is when government leaders and police leaders blatantly lied, why are you still defended those who lied?
You still have not clarify the questions I posed to you.
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Here again:
When I say " "you seem to have no other choice but to ignore their (agencies & police) abuses", it is not spinning because I gave you the benefit of doubt. Meaning you can explain if I misread you.
But when you say, "u can accept lim kit siang as a saint but im not.", you are the one spinning. Why? Because you make a statement that I accept LKS as a saint. When did I say anything that represents LKS as a saint? So, do you who spinned accuses someone else as spinning?
Question for you. If you have rights to voice your opinion online, does others have rights to voice opinions on the street, according to the constitution?
Lastly, about the huru-hara. Based on what facts do you claimed that Bersih create huru-hara on the street? Who brought weapons other than the police? Who uses weapons on anyone other than the police? Oh, one stupid Tian Chua ran unarmed towards a group of armed men. Granted. But he was not at Tung Shin or dataran Maybank was he?
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